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Mike, I will pass this along to the buyer. He is in the process of collecting a wide variety of antique bicycles for display in a bicycle museum he intends to open when he retires in a few years.  He has asked to keep confidential his personal information and I have respected his wishes although I am not privy to his motive. 

FYI:  The 1902 Ladies Hartford Model 32 posted in my ad on January 18th has been sold to a buyer in Switzerland.

Richard, Thank you for your response however, after trying again to post 12 pictures of the ladies Hartford Model 32 I recently restored and wasting another hour of my time the results were the same again. I clicked on "POST" and after about 5 minutes the following message appears in the center of my screen: THIS PAGE ISN'T WORKING
                                                  The is currently unable
                                                   to handle this request. 
Please note that this message refers to the old .org designation while I alway use only the .com designation when I sign on.  To say this is incredibly frustrating would be an understatement.  After reading Wayne Batten's reply here I'm beginning to agree with him.  One of the reasons I belong to our organization is the ability to buy and sell items on our website;  however not being able to post pictures of items wanted or for sale takes much of the value out of this feature. If I am doing something wrong or missing something in the posting procedure please let me know.


On January 16th, after posting an ad on our website for the sale of a restored 1902 Hartford ladies bicycle I found that the pictures I had included in the ad failed to make it into the post. I assumed the reason had to do with the number of pictures I had included (24) so I re-typed the post with half the number of pictures (12) and that failed as well.  A while ago I posted and ad for a TOC ladies Parker bicycle with more than a dozen pictures included and that worked without any problems.  In trying to figure out what the problem might be my wife asked "is your membership current"? I thought it was but soon realized it was not.  Checking my check register I found no indication I had paid my 2020 dues.....Whoops.

Immediately I sent in  my 2020 dues payment through Paypal....that was yesterday 1/18/20.  Today is Sunday so I assume it will be a few days before my membership is reinstated but questions remains for me:  Does our website not allow pictures to be included in ads posted by none members? Is there a fixed limit to the number of pictures that can be attached to an ad?  I'm hoping someone reading this might be able to advise me on this; I'd really like to share the pictures I've take of this restoration with fellow Wheelmen. I can also be reached by email at ( ) or by phone  (518-339-7867 ).

For sale is this recently restored 1902 Ladies Hartford Model 32 bicycle.  The restoration was completed by Time Machines, Ltd. and was done to a very high standard.  The frame and fork has been hand stripped to bare metal, carefully prepared for refinishing, given 3 coats of primer followed by 7 coats of gloss black Lacquer - hand rubbed between coats  afterwich was applied a very fine-lined hand pin-striping in gold enamel.  All bright metal has be re-nickel plated including front and rear hubs. The Maple rims were produced by Noah Stutzman and have inserts imbedded that allow beaded tires with inner tubes to be fit so the bicycle can be safely and smoothly riden when inflated to 50 PSI or up to 75 PSI. The rear fender (also produced by Noah) has received 6 coats of gloss lacquer. The wheels are laced with S.S. double butted spokes fit to 1" nickel plated nipples. The tires are black wall models made by Amsterdam Electra, they have no contrasting colored logos so they appear very period correct.  The leather handgrips are beautiful reproductions of the originals with polished brass ferrules. The Maple rear fender and chainguard have skirt guard lacing using tea-dyed 3/32nd parachute cordage in laced in the original pattern. The saddle is the original Garford Hygienic model that is in astonishing condition. Accessories include a period correct Majestic model carbide headlamp made by the Edward Miller Company; there is also a functioning seat-tube mounted tire pump.  The bicycle is a fixed gear model and it's Serial Number (as found near the top of the seat-tube) is #1276. The patent date (embossed on the brass head badge) is Nov. 12, 1888.

The price of $4,000. includes disassembly and  packing for shipment. Shipping charges to your zip code via are not included in the price.  Plan on between $200. to $400. depending on your distance from my zip code 32058 on the East coast of Florida. The bike may also be picked up fully assembled which would lower the selling price by $150; international shipping is also available via Prices will be quoted upon receipt of destination information.

Please feel free to ask any questions about the bike either on this website, or my email (address: or by phone ) 518 339 7867

Tyson, Many thanks; exactly what I was looking for and available locally as well.
Dick Rath

About a year ago I completed the restoration of a ladies TOC bicycle on which I installed a set of 28" solid creme colored tube-type tires which I found on the internet and bought them primarily because they did not have the makers logo imprinted on the sidewall or a sidewall stripe in a contrasting color.  I had Noah Stutzman produce a set of Maple rims that accepted the tires beads and was very satisfied with the results as was the bike's new owner.  I'd like to order a few sets of these tires for future restorations where I know the bikes will be ridden regularly.  The problem I've run into is that I lost or misplaced the sellers contact information. Might anyone recognize the manufacturer from the attached pictures that show the tread pattern? Better yet might know where I could purchase duplicates.  My recollection is that the seller was in California.  The tires were not made by Schwalbe but might have been produced in Holland like I understand most Schwalbe tires are. 

The 1898 Ladies Iver-Johnson has been sold to the same gentleman in Switzerland that  now has a total of 32 of my restorations in his possession. My understanding is that, upon his retirement a few years down the road, he will open up his full collection of antique bicycles for public viewing in a museum he is creating in his home village. He reminded me in the note attached to his wire transfer of the funds for this purchase that it was another Iver-Johnson bicycle, a men's roadster,  that was his first from me, 7 years ago.

While I am extremely grateful for his enthusiasm for my work I am, at the same time,  saddened that so many of them have landed in a foreign country and not here in our country where all of them were manufactured some 100 plus years ago. In answer to comments I've heard from a few Wheelmen members over the years that these restored bikes might better serve our associations goals if they remained in the our country; I would respond that most, if not all, of the bicycle that went to Switzerland were first offered for sale here in the U.S. either at bicycle shows, on the internet, on our own web-site, or at The Copake Bicycle Auction and their Friday swap meet. The prices I put on my restorations reflect my material costs, my labor, and my costs for nickel plating, and when required, replacement rims, spokes, some accessories, and occasionally a saddle restoration . I restore old bikes as a hobby, certainly not as a business; thus I really cannot afford sell thing at a loss. Without my patron in Switzerland I'm afraid I'd have to find something else to fiddle with in my retirement. 

If the last photo in the group is of the actual seller I'd be very wary and I'd caution against  believing one word that he writes in the ad. I know this guy and  the last thing I heard about him he was lying about Mexico paying for some hare brained project he had dreamed up down by our southern border about which Mexico told him to take a hike; so guess what?  Now he's asking me to pay for it.......Really? 

Posted on my local Treasure Coast - Florida Craigslist page:
Up for sale is one of my recently restored bicycles which I purchased from member Glenn Eames late last year. Aside from materials and services from outside sources: Saddle restoration, nickel plating, spokes and nipples, oil headlamp, and brass tire pump; I have over 85 hours in the process.  In younger days I probably could have done the work in 70 hours but might not have enjoyed the process as much.
I have it priced at $4,200. but am certainly open to reasonable offers by a fellow Wheelmen member.

Happily the bicycle was sold on January 31st to a fellow Wheelman.

Yes, it is the same bike exactly as pictured and described. I tried to simply bring the original post back up with the new lowered price but the new system seems to not have a way to do so, or at least one I could figure out. If you have any questions about the bike or would like additional pictures you can email me directly at:


Board for buying and selling Wheelmen goods and services. / PRICE REDUCTION
« on: December 24, 2018, 01:50:38 PM »
The price for this fully restored 1897 Ladies Pope/Columbia listed for sale here on December 7th has been reduced to $3,000.  It is a ridable showpiece, restored to a very high standard.

Hello Wayne,  Just read your post but sadly I cannot help you in your quest for New Jersey built bicycles.  However, seeing you name here reminded me that when we spoke last April at Copake you told me about a Flea Market type event in central Florida that takes place twice each year; you were also kind enough to follow up with an email giving me the details.  As has happened to me once before, my laptop suddenly "blue screened" and all of that information is now somewhere in cyberspace.  Would you be so kind as to re-send that information to me.  We are now permanent resident's of Florida, with a home in Sebastian on the east coast,  and would love to enjoy a day at one or both of these events. Perhaps we could even arrange to meet at one if you are intending to attend.  My email address is the same as always:
Hoping all is well with you;


For sale: a recently completed full restoration of a 28" ladies TOC Pope-Columbia bicycle. Restored by; Time Machines Limited during the fall of 2018.  The frame and fork are finished in dark green ( 65% black ) sprayed enamel - hand rubbed between coats and and then polished with progressively finer 3M polishing compounds to a soft luster appropriate for the bikes age.  All brightwork has be re-nickel plated, the rims and rear fender were made by Noah Stutzman, rims replaced with Stainless steel double butted spokes with new nickel plate nipples. The bike is a fixed gear model with appropriate rear axel threaded mounting peg and the front fork is fitted with adjustable nickel plated coaster pegs. A period correct Lucas Nicke plated brass carbide lamp is attached with an extended neck mounting bracket. The rear fender skirt guard and chain guard are laced with tea-tied parachute cordage. The frame and fork are hand pin striped in gold-leaf enamel.  The front wheel compression hand brake functions perfectly, the original Pope Columbia pedal have be re-nickeled and fit with new reproduction Columbia rubbers. The leather wrapped hand grips are the originals and in excellent condition. The original block chain is slightly stretched but still has a way to go before it would need to be replaced.  As found, the bikes head badge, while still attached, had split vertically; it has been repaired using epoxy which provided a strong bond however the irregular seam can still be seen.  I've got "feelers" out trying to find an original badge but thus far none has surfaced.  While the bicycle is restored to show / museum quality it is also a reliable rider being equipped with rims fit with an internal full diameter aluminum insert made with a profile to accept, and lock in place, a modern 28"- (700 x 40c ) tire that can be inflated to between 60 and 70 psi.  The tires I chose are period correct all-creme color with no sidewall stripe or logo imprint. The tread pattern while not period correct is not obtrusive and actually look pretty good.  The rims were carefully ( and tediously ) finely pin striped in a black; and like the rear fender are finished with many coats of hand rubbed clear coat. Finally,  there is frame mounted functioning polished brass high quality tire pump.   

The price for this bike has been lowered 25 percent  to  $3,000.00. Shipping is available to anyplace on the planet via  My charge for disassembly and careful packaging of the bike for shipment is $200.00.  There is also the option of customer pick here in Sebastian, Florida.

I'd be happy to provide specific detailed pictures to prospective purchasers who will include their email address with their request.

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