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Here is a trick I have used on safety bicycles that are going to be ridden to stop seat posts and handlebar stems from slipping down. Basically it is an internal spacer.
(I realize that makes/models/years/designs of antique bicycles vary greatly but read the steps below to see how to fix a current or possible problem, especially on a restored antique bicycle with shiny nickel plated parts).

1) Set up your comfortable heights of seat and handlebars.
2) Place some tape to mark the junction at the seat post and seat post frame tube OR at the handlebar stem and front fork stem/steering head.
3) Remove the seat post and handlebar stem and measure from their ends to your tape mark. Write down measurements.
4) Using a tape measure or stick, internally measure from the top of the seat post clamp/top down to the crank bracket. Do the same from the handlebar clamp/steering head down to the fork crown and write down measurements.
5) Subtract the measurements you got in (3) above from measurements in (4) above to get length(s) for your new internal spacers and write down measurements.
6) Get a piece of plastic sprinkler pipe, wooden dowel, etc that will be strong enough and the outside diameter should just barely slide into the seat post frame tube or front fork stem/steering head. You want a sliding fit "if" you want to easily remove it in the future. If internal diameters of seat post frame tube or front fork stem are odd internal diameters not matching the diameters of the plastic pipe or wooden dowel, you can file/machine down the outside diameter of a slightly larger diameter flat washer that will slide into this odd inside diameter and use a smaller diameter pipe or wooden dowel that you slide in first and then place the washer at the top so the seat post or handlebar stem will bottom out on it.
7) Cut pipe, wooden dowel, etc to the measurements you got in (5) above and slide in your new cut to length internal spacers until they bottom out.

Lastly, slide in seat post and/or handlebar stem until they bottom on the internal spacer, align them and tighten in place.

You now have stopped the sliding down problem you may have been having or could eventually experience. The good part is you don't see this "fix" from outside the bicycle!

Mike Cates, CA.
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Need help to pick up John Wanamaker Coaster bike in EAST Setauket, NY and bring into eastern or north central PA.  I will compensate.  Let me know. Thanks.  Kirby
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You’ve convinced me! I have submitted an application for membership.

However, my comments above weren’t meant to advance my interests as a then-non-member. I still think that at least the forum should be usable by non-members. It would certainly bring more benefit than harm to the organisation.

Is there any way that the old Wheelmen forums can be put up as an archive?

Eric, thanks for your explanation. And Mike, thanks for your thoughtful comments.


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General discussions on Wheelmen topics. / Re: Membership renewal reminder
« Last post by DelombardR on April 10, 2020, 03:30:02 PM »
Renewal update.

There was a snafu in my system to notify members of their renewal status via the Newsletter address block.  For members who had not renewed for 2020, there was to be the words 'renew now' in the address block. Those words were lost by the printer.

Today, I dropped off a big pile of postcards to those members who have not renewed from last year to this year.  If you receive one of these postcards in the next few days, we hope you'll renew with a check and form sent to the Treasurer (address on back of Newsletter) or on-line via:
https://www.thewheelmen.com/sections/membership/membership.php

Any questions about your status, drop me an e-mail at:
MemberShip@thewheelmen.org


Richard DeLombard
The Membership Guy

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I am now being informed from David Brown on the CABE that CLEVELAND had their own ball end spokes with rather large diameter ball ends that may have directly fit into the staggered holes in the hub and NOT use the porcupine barrels as Columbia did.
If anyone can chime in to help this issue with photos or catalog descriptions, that would educate us all. My catalogs on CLEVELAN only go up to 1897 and David feels this bicycle is later about 1900 or 1901.
Thank you,
Mike Cates, CA.
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CLEVELAND BEVEL GEAR CHAINLESS SHAFT DRIVE LADIES BICYCLE (Exact year still to be determined) manufactured by the H.A.Lozier Co., Cleveland, Ohio.

Older restoration started but never completed. Frame and forks are in gloss black automotive enamel paint and all other parts are nickel plated as originally done.

I have the nickel plated handlebars somewhere and am looking for them.

Missing are: rims, spokes and tires that will complete this rare shaft driven bicycle.

It is the complimentary match to the Man's model of the same year.

Note, the staggered holes in the original hubs that are approximately 3/16" diameter. This is similar to a Columbia direct pull porcupine hub but the original porcupine barrels from this bicycle are missing They would not be a hard part to make by using a 3/16" steel flat head rivet that could be cross-drilled for the spoke diameter and counter sunk for the spoke head.

This bicycle would have 28" diameter tires front and rear.

The seat is uncommon with the lateral or transverse flat spring and is unique in it's design.

Bike is dusty from storage and is waiting for YOU to bring it back to life.

$3850.00 plus shipping cost.

I ship world wide and have a 100% POSITIVE SHIPPING RECORD for years from my buyers.

I can pack in regular bicycle cardboard boxes OR make a wooden crate and only charge for the plywood, 2 X 2's and screws to make it. I DO NOT CHARGE an additional labor charge to do this.

I can get shipping insurance if requested that will be added to the cost.

Mike Cates, CA.
(760) 473-6201 Voice Calls Only and I DO NOT TEXT.
Email: cates0321@hotmail.com
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I have the DEMOREST catalog.
Mike Cates
(760) 473-6201 Voice Calls Only and I DO NOT TEXT.
Email: cates0321@hotmail.com
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Most Wheelmen that are in the club are in it for either collecting, restoring, researching and riding antique bicycles or a combination of these interests. Some long-time members don't even have antique bicycles but enjoy the history of the bicycle and are intrigued with the information found in the quarterly Newsletters and Biannual Wheelmen Magazines.
Being involved with antique bicycles for years and then joining The Wheelmen in the mid 1970's, I have learned A LOT from members, publications and research.
My personal interest is in bicycles pre 1910 but I appreciate later built bicycles.
I started out in my younger years by riding high wheel bicycles and it was fun. Along with the high wheel bicycles there were also the amazingly interesting hard tire safeties that were so short lived in their time but yet ridden right alongside the high wheel bicycles at the time.
When I joined I started to see the trend of members that started getting older begin to ride hard or cushion tire safeties as a natural progression due to their ages or physical abilities. What ever made them progress to safeties, they still had the spirit to continue to ride and I applaud them for that.
 I am finding myself now, many years later since I became a Wheelmen member, that the hard tire safeties are equally as fun as a high wheel bicycle and you still get the feeling of riding an historic vehicle that someone rode more than 100 years ago. you also get the lookie-loos that haven't seen anything like your machine before and are proud to educate them about it.
I hope you join our club as there is a wealth of knowledge to be learned and it never ends as to uncovering something new about antique bicycles. You will meet folks that will become lifetime friends and this friendship carries on into their children also taking the reigns and continuing the interest and are always there to contact or rely on as a resource and are truly interested in antique bicycles.
Help The Wheelmen keep this spirit going for future generations to enjoy by your joining.
Mike Cates, CA.
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I bought two of these Victor brake handles from Greg a few years ago and they are very nice.
Mike Cates, CA.
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Ride the High Country,

The Wheelmen are an antique bicycle club. From early on we focused on pre-1918 bicycles and have recently expanded to 1932.
Many Wheelmen have and enjoy safeties of all stripes. Most of the cover stories for our recent magazines
have focused on safeties.
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